Pass up the Captain's craps Supersystem 26 February By Frank Scoblete. Dear Frank: I was playing craps in wheeling W.V. where there was a gentleman playing who. About the Five Count the system for deciding when to wager that Frank Scoblete details in his books Beat the Craps Out of the Casinos and Forever Craps. The 5-Count, the Captain's method for finding hot shooters and reducing a player's overall risk at the craps table, starts with a point number (the "point.
The 5-Count Method - Selecting Shooters To Bet on At Craps
There have been two types of criticisms of the 5-Count over the years, one short-sighted and frivolous, the other valid and serious. Kaplan is the network's managing editor. If I use any reader's letter in my column I will send you a free copy of my latest book. That would be an advantage to the player depending on the point established. Catlin had the bets working at all times once they were placed, even on subsequent come-out rolls.
By John Grochowski Alex is a craps player, a much better one than when he started writing to me about 14 years ago when this column began. Back then, he was always sending me convoluted systems, using one-roll propositions to cover up perceived weaknesses in pass, come and place bets. So when the phone rang and Alex started talking, I knew he wasn't going to give me any crazy systems. Instead, he wanted to talk about a good one. Scoblete is a prime-time craps player as well as the nation's best-selling gambling author, and his Five Count limits the rolls you play and decreases your exposure to the house edge.
I won't get overly detailed here, but basically, you don't bet until a new shooter reaches a count of five without sevening out. The first point number — 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 — the shooter rolls is the one count. The next three rolls, assuming no 7s, are the two, three and four counts.
To reach the five count, the shooter must roll another point number. With no point, the count remains at four and holding. Once the shooter reaches the Five Count, you jump on board. For more detailed explanations, check out Scoblete's books. I even understand you can't bet the way I used to and use the Five Count. You're trying to find a hot shooter, then start betting pass and come with odds.
What I'm trying to figure out is whether there's any advantage other than just not risking any money for a few extra rolls. Does the Five Count lower the house edge? The house is going to have a 1. Don Catlin, a retired professor of mathematics and statistics at the University of Massachusetts as well as a gambling author and columnist at Casino City Times www.
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It would eliminate around 50 percent of the shooters, those who in the aggregate would lose you money. It would position you to be in the game when the other 50 percent of the shooters rolled, among whom would be four types of shooters: How to Play Craps and Win! In my 14 years of playing craps the Captains way, I became a true believer in the power of the 5-Count and I have preached the Captains philosophy to any craps player who would listen.
Indeed, Sharpshooters book Get the Edge at Craps: How to Control the Dice! Still, even many experienced controlled shooters eschew the 5-Count in favor of other types of "shooter qualification" concepts, thinking perhaps that any "shooter qualification" method is as good as any other "shooter qualification" method. There have been two types of criticisms of the 5-Count over the years, one short-sighted and frivolous, the other valid and serious. Criticism 1 concerns the amount of discipline necessary to employ the 5-Count, the fact that the 5-Count can be boring to play as it keeps you out of the action for prolonged periods of time when shooters are going down in flames one after the other, and that it is disheartening when you finally get money up on a shooter only to have him seven out just after the 5-Count.
Players who point to criticism 1 as the reason for why they stopped using the 5-Count, or why they never attempted it in the first place, tend to see gambling as a form of entertainment and they crave the action. Its heard for them to stay out of the action for any period of time without getting antsy to bet their money. So they look for other shooter qualification criteria that get them in the action sooner. Criticism 2 is far more serious as it simply puts the 5-Count in the spotlight with a single question: Where are the computer simulations?
What makes the Captains 5-Count method any better than any other method for selecting shooters to bet on, like waiting for them to make a point before betting or hitting a couple of this or that number?
All these shooter qualification methods are all just a matter of opinion, period unless you have the proof to the contrary. Over the years Ive used logic and the experiences of players who have used the 5-Count successfully in relatively long-run play 10 years to 25 years to counter the claims of those who adhere to criticism 2.
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